Vegan activism and the effectiveness of the abolitionist approach - the funcrunch files
Honestly, for the first half or so, I had a lot of trouble trying to follow the whole story and keep track of who was whom, and I got really confused. But I did understand the latter part and the end. I'm sorry you and boyziggy were subjected to such name-calling, and I'm glad that you have gotten away from that sort of hostility. Generally, I find internet forums to be full of dick-waving (and frequently misogyny), so I usually just don't read them. And I definitely almost never read comments on stuff. What I do see are many, many FB or LJ posts from friends who have been similarly hurt in these forums. This crap has been going on since Usenet, and I've always tried to avoid it. Hang in there, and don't let the bastards drag you down!
Thanks for reading through the whole thing and for the support of me and boyziggy. I know it got quite long but I wanted to be thorough to give as much evidence as possible of what was going on in his forum. I thought about putting a "cast of characters" at the top but didn't want to look like I was trying to single anyone out (and that would have made the essay even longer).
I agree with you on Internet forums. The irony is that shortly before I found out about Francione I was actively trying to cut down on my online time, and had somewhat succeeded. Then I got sucked into this forum, and felt like I'd finally found a community of like-minded people, so started spending more and more time there. I can see why some people think of it as a cult.
I knew it turned out the way it did because you were trying to represent everyone really fairly. But I think you could summarize a lot of the quotes (just leave in the most egregious ones) and just link to the screenshots of the rest of them for reference. It would be shorter that way, and you would have the ability to put in the cast of characters, which I think would be really helpful.
I wanted to include as much text as possible in the article so people didn't have to keep going off the page to look at screenshots. Also to make it easy for someone to copy and paste if they wanted to reply to something.
Apparently I had some small impact: Gary posted another comment on the thread referring to my essay as "malicious" amongst other things, but he left the discussion thread intact, and said he also saved a copy of the discussion to protect against the possibility of me deleting my own comments in order to misrepresent what was said. (I haven't visited the forum since posting my essay, so I'm going by what someone told me he posted.) Sad that it's come to this.
I'm sad that it's come to this, too, but I think you should stop reading. It's not worth the brain damage.
I haven't gone back to Francione's page, but I'm having good and worthwhile conversations in private and public with other vegan activists.